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Peanut died a martyr, Pecan will remember. RIP.

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    A song about having gay sex with the bros, an animal crossing villager, and MAGA is such a strange combination

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  • Inserting politics into everything. Just as cringe as

    "everything is political, phobic, ist, etc".

    Same petty rot with different buzzwords.

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  • i feel bad for peanut but you shouldn't keep squirrels as pets not to mention he was obese :(

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  • floofsnoots said:
    Inserting politics into everything. Just as cringe as

    "everything is political, phobic, ist, etc".

    Same petty rot with different buzzwords.

    I'm just having fun, you wouldn't want this place to just turn into an echo chamber of one-sided views right?
    Talking and joking about things, even the things we do not like, is how we all learn to appreciate each other and our different cultures.

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  • mirakelpung said:
    I'm just having fun, you wouldn't want this place to just turn into an echo chamber of one-sided views right?
    Talking and joking about things, even the things we do not like, is how we all learn to appreciate each other and our different cultures.

    We don't need to talk about the bad things.

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  • nohlahn said:
    We don't need to talk about the bad things.

    And who decides what things are bad?
    If you do not object to people having their views silenced, don't cry when the same happens to you.

    I want everyone to express themselves freely, even the people I disagree with.

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  • floofsnoots said:
    Inserting politics into everything. Just as cringe as

    "everything is political, phobic, ist, etc".

    Same petty rot with different buzzwords.

    I'll be honest, apolitical "everything is equally bad" "intellectuals" are sometimes more annoying than MAGA people. You can plainly tell what republicans stand for, and there's some sense of honor in loudly stating what you're about that there just isn't in smug centrism. Hateful beliefs still require more of a spine than no beliefs.

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  • mirakelpung said:
    And who decides what things are bad?
    If you do not object to people having their views silenced, don't cry when the same happens to you.

    I want everyone to express themselves freely, even the people I disagree with.

    It's just a really raw time right now. Things are polarized to an extreme like we probably haven't seen since the Civil War period. I wasn't around for that but it's a guess. Even things like this just rub an exposed nerve for many people. I've seen more of your stuff and it's great. This just is not the right joke for right now.

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  • cyandog182 said:
    It's just a really raw time right now. Things are polarized to an extreme like we probably haven't seen since the Civil War period. I wasn't around for that but it's a guess. Even things like this just rub an exposed nerve for many people. I've seen more of your stuff and it's great. This just is not the right joke for right now.

    You edited your post so I'll edit mine too. Let's not get into a massive argument.
    And thank you for your compliment on my art.

    I promise you this thing is not a start of a trend, more it's just one of my occasional bad taste humor things I do like my violent patty animations that are not very popular either but are very fun for me to draw :P

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  • Sim, what was that ban about transphobia? And is this ban evasion? Say it ain't so bro

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  • asiago said:
    Sim, what was that ban about transphobia? And is this ban evasion? Say it ain't so bro

    I disagreed about that purple ghost from paper mario being a woman because in the original japanese version he isn't referred to as a woman. I don't see how that's transphobia. How does that have anything to do with hating transgender people? I don't agree that misgendering is transphobia either, you're free to pretend to be whatever you want just as I am free to pretend you are whatever I want should I so please.

    People need to go back to adopting the principles of "live and let live". I don't care what goes on in your bedroom, and you shouldn't care about what goes on in mine. Don't infringe on my rights and no one will infringe on yours.

    Plus I already had this account, it even stated on my profile that this was my Alias.
    Also I really felt it was abuse of power to ban someone for having different political beliefs, that's just bigoted.

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  • mirakelpung said:
    I'm just having fun, you wouldn't want this place to just turn into an echo chamber of one-sided views right?
    Talking and joking about things, even the things we do not like, is how we all learn to appreciate each other and our different cultures.

    Aye. As a centrist, just pointing out the clear similarities between extremes. "Everything is Woke" is the **same exact thing** as "everything is homophobic, sexist, racist, etc". Isn't it?

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  • glitchbun said:
    I'll be honest, apolitical "everything is equally bad" "intellectuals" are sometimes more annoying than MAGA people. You can plainly tell what republicans stand for, and there's some sense of honor in loudly stating what you're about that there just isn't in smug centrism. Hateful beliefs still require more of a spine than no beliefs.

    Without neutrality or fence-sitters, there is never negotiation, or arbitration, or diplomacy, or anything but screaming extremes.This demonizing of centrists is misguided. Not everyone picked a crusader as their class and insinuating they're spineless because they refuse to join a screaming match only pushes them away.

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  • glitchbun said:
    A song about having gay sex with the bros, an animal crossing villager, and MAGA is such a strange combination

    That song was never strictly about the gayness, the band definitely had a theme with the macho characters and costumes but they actually did want young men to go to the YMCA to seek help and counceling during the bad times in the 70s when there were fewer jobs and drugs and crime were ravaging low income urban communities. They filmed the damn music video in the bleakest, sketchiest side of New York.

    Unfortunately people were more interested in the HAH, GAY part than supporting institutions that could have helped people.

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  • Plus it is also just a very catchy song.
    I know a lot of people feel I made this strictly out of maliciousness, but the biggest reason I made it is honestly just because I find Trump's goofy dance to YMCA he does on his rallies so funny.

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  • mirakelpung said:
    I disagreed about that purple ghost from paper mario being a woman because in the original japanese version he isn't referred to as a woman. I don't see how that's transphobia. How does that have anything to do with hating transgender people? I don't agree that misgendering is transphobia either, you're free to pretend to be whatever you want just as I am free to pretend you are whatever I want should I so please.

    People need to go back to adopting the principles of "live and let live". I don't care what goes on in your bedroom, and you shouldn't care about what goes on in mine. Don't infringe on my rights and no one will infringe on yours.

    Plus I already had this account, it even stated on my profile that this was my Alias.
    Also I really felt it was abuse of power to ban someone for having different political beliefs, that's just bigoted.

    Refusing to recognize a character as their referred gender; regardless of original intentions in fact is Transphobia.
    Transphobia isn't just the hatred of or fear of trans people; but aversion of as well as discrimination. Aversion could also refer to evasion as well. And refusing to call somebody as their preferred identity isn't just "I live life how I want". It's completely avoiding the fact that they're trans to begin with.
    Misgendering on purpose is transphobia. It is NOT a debate of "How I live my life". If you want to argue and disagree, then please look into the definition of Transphobia. There are many definitions; but the agreed upon definitions by most sources is what I've already mentioned.

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  • floofsnoots said:
    Without neutrality or fence-sitters, there is never negotiation, or arbitration, or diplomacy, or anything but screaming extremes.This demonizing of centrists is misguided. Not everyone picked a crusader as their class and insinuating they're spineless because they refuse to join a screaming match only pushes them away.

    yep, this is just clear partisanship mixed with zelotry, this mentality of "if you are not with me, then you are agaisnt me" is the reason why i oppose those two parts... (that and the fact that i will never agree with any kind of extremists !)

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  • fairyfoxsocks said:
    Refusing to recognize a character as their referred gender; regardless of original intentions in fact is Transphobia.
    Transphobia isn't just the hatred of or fear of trans people; but aversion of as well as discrimination. Aversion could also refer to evasion as well. And refusing to call somebody as their preferred identity isn't just "I live life how I want". It's completely avoiding the fact that they're trans to begin with.
    Misgendering on purpose is transphobia. It is NOT a debate of "How I live my life". If you want to argue and disagree, then please look into the definition of Transphobia. There are many definitions; but the agreed upon definitions by most sources is what I've already mentioned.

    I don't believe acting like a man is a man is discrimination in any way.
    You can act like you're a woman, you can dress like you're a woman, you can be gay and have sex with men. I am fine with all of those things. I am a bisexual man, I am attracted to both genders and I would in fact be attracted to boys dressing up as girls.

    But you do not own my speech. You do not get to decide what I must call you or you will deem me a bigot. If that's your standard for what makes someone a transphobe then being called a transphobe is meaningless, then it is not an insult and a bad thing. Because if I have to chose between being a transphobe and having someone infringe on my right to free speech and expression, I would absolutely rather have someone call me that meaningless word.

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  • mirakelpung said:
    I don't believe acting like a man is a man is discrimination in any way.
    You can act like you're a woman, you can dress like you're a woman, you can be gay and have sex with men. I am fine with all of those things. I am a bisexual man, I am attracted to both genders and I would in fact be attracted to boys dressing up as girls.

    But you do not own my speech. You do not get to decide what I must call you or you will deem me a bigot. If that's your standard for what makes someone a transphobe then being called a transphobe is meaningless, then it is not an insult and a bad thing. Because if I have to chose between being a transphobe and having someone infringe on my right to free speech and expression, I would absolutely rather have someone call me that meaningless word.

    You have completely ignored my point on how aversion to a transgender person being trans is also transphobia and yapped about your 'freedom of speech' being controlled, but okay. go off, king.

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  • fairyfoxsocks said:
    You have completely ignored my point on how aversion to a transgender person being trans is also transphobia and yapped about your 'freedom of speech' being controlled, but okay. go off, king.

    I'm saying I don't care if a person is transgender. They can go live their life and be happy.
    But THEY should let me go live my life and be happy, and not care what I think of them.

    They don't NEED my approval. They have my approval to be who they want to be, but they will not take away my right to express myself freely out of fear of punishment.

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  • mirakelpung said:
    I'm saying I don't care if a person is transgender. They can go live their life and be happy.
    But THEY should let me go live my life and be happy, and not care what I think of them.

    They don't NEED my approval. They have my approval to be who they want to be, but they will not take away my right to express myself freely out of fear of punishment.

    Really? If you didn't care about a person being transgender then it would be easy to just politely correct yourself if you accidentally misgender someone or a character or recognize that someone's transgender and be just a tiny bit respectful to that.

    You say 'You don't care' about someone being trans. But you're standing on this hill on "I'm going to call someone their birth gender because muh freedom of speech". You're defending this and coping so hard to the point where perhaps you're contradicting yourself. If you have the freedom of speech to avoid someone being trans, then anyone has the freedom of speech to call you out for being bigotted.

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  • fairyfoxsocks said:
    Really? If you didn't care about a person being transgender then it would be easy to just politely correct yourself if you accidentally misgender someone or a character or recognize that someone's transgender and be just a tiny bit respectful to that.

    You say 'You don't care' about someone being trans. But you're standing on this hill on "I'm going to call someone their birth gender because muh freedom of speech". You're defending this and coping so hard to the point where perhaps you're contradicting yourself. If you have the freedom of speech to avoid someone being trans, then anyone has the freedom of speech to call you out for being bigotted.

    If a transgender person asks me nicely to refer to them as a woman, I will. If they demand I call them a woman or they will have me ostracized and have me face punishment and have my reputation ruined then damn right I'm going to call them a man. I don't owe you to be nice to you if you're not nice to other people. I do not care about your gender, live and let live.

    And sure you can call me a bigot then if you want, just as I am free to call you a bigot. And when everyone's a bigot, who the hell cares if you're a bigot? You're calling people you disagree with bad words so often that we're simply not feeling like those words have any meaning anymore. Being called a bigot, a nazi or a transphobe is pretty much like being called a "doodyhead" by a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum.

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  • I really, REALLY do not think gender is a big deal or an important question at all. It's not any more important to me than if you feel like you're Goth, or that you really like the color purple, or that your fursona is a husky. Cool, you do you. I don't care.

    I do not care what your gender is, I do not care what gender you feel like, I do not care what gender you want to be called. Your gender is not important to me, I do not care. That should be a good thing. Live and let live, you live your life how you want and I live my life how I want. You do not need my approval, and you should not care if you get my approval to live your life how you want to. Just as I will not care if I get anyone's approval to live my life how I want to.

    The only time I will actively care about this stuff, is when people want to overstep their boundaries and infringe on my rights. My rights to free speech, my rights to free expression, my right to live my life without being told what to do and what to think. And it's not because I expressively want to offend people that I want these things, it's because I want to protect a free society where no one has to fear not being able to say what they think and feel because "someone might get offended, and that's illegal now".

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  • See if silencing views you disagreed with and calling people a bigot was a good strategy to make people change their minds and come over to your side, Trump wouldn't have won the popular vote by a landslide. Let that sink in e621.

    Republicans know you'll catch more voters by promising them a great economy rather than by acting hateful and accusing everyone of being a nazi or a transphobe and shooting at their candidate. If you don't want the next 12 years of election to keep going to republicans, wake the fuck up and change your hateful unwelcoming attitudes you drama queens.

    I say this with love, you need help. This is not good for you, or the world. Be better.
    Maybe the next 4 years of Trump will finally open your eyes, you've been close-minded for such a long time.

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