If you do CQB like this YOU WILL DIE
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- Опубликовано: 12 апр 2025
- On this episode of 'Combat Reacts' I review a CQB demonstration from a tactical school. I normally refrain from picking on other peoples' SOPs or TTPs but this one scares the crap out of me. The TLDR for this video is this: don't "peek-a-boo clear" a room while doing CQB. Please.
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They're practicing the well-known "I want in on that kill, too!" method. It's pretty clear they trained in the Call of Duty combat program.
Hey man, that's disgraceful to CoD players.... I'm pretty sure I have more CQB sense then these two from CoD and Siege lol
"Bro you stole my kill!"
I was going to object with how any gamer would understand on a very basic level to clear corners, not get stuck on doors and enter rooms with their gun ready.
Then I realised most people play CoD sprinting like this and they'll bitch and whine about campers because they can't clear corners. So, nevermind.
@@TheSantifive lmfao 😂 that's factual asf. Monitoring a target rich environment is not camping like they always cry about.
I was thinking battle field with the peakaboo duck walk thing they did
The peekaboo looks like a classic example of already knowing where the targets are placed.
Mike Tyson says that this is the only way to clear a room.
Kinda like when Lucas from T-Rex arms does his blazing fast runs around drywall but preset the targets so he knows the exact angle which to engage lol.
@@JohnDoe-wz7lw Exactly! I was thinking the same thing!!
@@tarichar8 lmao that is boxing, this is different.
If you knew, wouldn't you intentionally lead with your gun? If you don't know, wouldn't you do the same? I don't understand the concept of eyes first, then react in any situation where you're the aggressor in a hostile environment. Even in a match environment where downrange is always clear, the time saved by gun leading should be observed by amateurs and professionals alike, so the idea that a trainer wouldn't recognize this makes me think they might be trying hard to enforce gun safety rules to their clientele. Even if the situation demands the only safeties be a mind and an index finger.
Apparently they never heard of 1. "fatal funnel", both of them jamming up, silhouetting the doorway. 2. "Slicing the pie". Both of them enter and turn the same way leaving their backs completely exposed. 3. Muzzle awareness in close proximity. Lucky they didn't shoot each other.
Yea dude. This is a literally the bare basics.
And letting a room "breathe" too. The most basic of basics.
I thought you meant, hypothetically during this training exercise good thing they didn't flag each other because under stress in a worse setting with live guns that could be really bad. Nope these dudes just about maimed or killed each other practicing. Not practicing to do things right either, practicing to do them ass wrong
My guy thank you I could have not said it better. That shit was giving me a fucking aneurysm. #LetsMakeTheGrassGrow
Yeah I didnt see any Pie Slicing which would have helped them not become easy targets
Ive always wanted someone to fire an MP5 five inches from my ear. Seems legit. Good corner work guys.
I’ve encountered them at a school; they’re serious as a heart attack. This was in all likelihood staged.
The weapons flick is a chamber check and their tactics are just blindly aggressive. They teach reloads on the move in uncleared areas.
As a marine infantryman, I both objected and was summarily ignored.
I wonder if that's somewhat down to the kind of opposition they expect to deal with. Less concerned about poorly trained, poorly equipped, disorganized militia shooting them, and more concerned that one bad guy in there has his finger on a button that's gonna just det the whole freaking building on everyone.
No one needs to be highly trained to focus their weapons on a single entry point and fuck your retarded day up the longer you stay near it once it opens. More than half of this shit is common sense.
Chamber check… with an MP5…
Tells a lot about them
@@antonikubiak5798 I was wondering about that: doesn't the MP5 when empty need the user to manually open it instead of it already locking itself open when empty?
@@maxwellsterling yup. exactly that. the UMP AFAIK does lock itself back, the MP5 does not
I like the part where the guy in black almost trips on the other guy as they rush to make sure their bodies are completely filling the doorway. Wouldn't want any enemy fire sneaking out in to the hallway behind you.
Lol, gotta catch em all
Lmao
It might be a tactic to shield the fresh guys/bodies that are going be piling in from the back you know :P
The vid is a perfect example to show how focusing on speed while room clearing can leave you vulnerable because it exposes your weak spots. Each shooter should know what each man in the team is supposed to do, no matter what position you are in the element. Two-man or Four-man team, it doesn't matter, you have to know all the positions within the element because once you restack on another door, you may not end up in the same spot depending on the situation. No one should have to tell you what to do going into a room and those guys staying in the fatal funnel at that 3rd point isn't good at all. Get into that room and dominate it, not stay stationary bunched together in the door where all the returning fire will go.
@@parawill7074 excellent! Well said sir. Thanks!
My hope is that they were demonstrating exactly what NOT to do.
if they arent i hope they are teaching the taliban or something....
no wrong demonstration, phony instructors
My thoughts exactly!
🤣🤣🤣 yeah let’s hope so
No need for CQB over there. Israeli forces usual just bulldoze the house or bomb the entire apartment building.
Also people have to understand. When you open a door or breach it. The bad guy is alerted of a threat is approaching. So just imagine when you hit the door the bad guys gun will come up. When you peekaboo the threat is ready to stitch your ass up. Literally Delta and Devgru have both lost guys because of this very thing. Keep in mind they were not doing the peekaboo method. They were simply doing hostage rescue CQB which is also known as Hollywood cqb. But it’s to reduce the threat of the bad guys taking out the hostage so you normally designate 4 guys to run as fast as possible to the hostage. It’s absolutely crazy they are still doing this. I think in 2003-2005 we learned the hard way why this doesn’t work
So after 2005 you do guys doing the slow is smooth and smooth is fast thing? My credtials include god of war and Zelda so I'm genuinely curious how real world works. Thanks 🙏
@@AG-en5y "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast" applies to literally everything. Frantic flailing around always casts more time than it gains. It's the same principle that gave us such timeless gems as "haste makes waste" and "more speed, less haste." For further reference: watch a speedrunner playing God of War or Legend of Zelda. Look at how calm and focused they are.
@@Rystefn bro I’ve been reading what I typed for the last 30 mins trying to figure out what I’m asking OP. I was so high that night I almost chose to keep eating pizza over getting laid
@@AG-en5yif the pizza is bussin the girl gotta wait
Hey I am a bit confused about the peekaboo thing. Maybe I am stupid or slow, call me what you want but I would like a bit more explanation. So the bad guy can hear us and knows I am coming through the door. he is somewhere in the room with his gun pointed at the open door. If he is going to shoot me on the peek. He is certainly going to be able to shoot me as my whole body moves in the room, locates where he is, adjusts my gun, and tries to shoot him first. Doing a peek with a gun and locating them in the room etc is also going to probably get me killed if they have the gun pointed at the door. So the idea I see is, you do a very fast peek. Your eyes take a snapshot of the room and where the bad guy is located. You take a second to process that behind cover, now you know where they are (or at least close to) and you can shoot from behind cover or enter the room with your gun pointed in their direction. Then at least the odds are more even. If they will shoot you on the peek, I don't see how you stand any chance of survival going in without peeking which is much slower anyway. And they already know where you are whether you peek or not, so it should not make your entry any worse, only better because you also know where they are. I am not giving advice or making definitive statements, I am just following the logic of my brain. Everyone seems to say peek is a terrible tactic so I am assuming I am wrong somewhere, but my slow brain just can not see it. So I appreciate any more explanation.
“If you’re gun is pointed at the ground, you’re just going to be shot in the face”… words to live by.
Even with your gun pointed towards the enemy, you're still liable to be shot in the face.
@@islandworkout 🤣
Your* and, if your gun is pointed in the air.
@@islandworkout Parenthesis?
Well even if your gun is pointed at the threat and they are waiting, you just got shot in the face.
I'm no soldier or expert, but even I could tell what those two were doing would be suicidal in an actual firefight
They were running around like cartoon characters.
they wanted to be like john wick lmao
😂😂😂😂
What they were doing was suicidal period--they're both lucky they didn't shoot each other in that little "demonstration"
imagine from the bad guy's perspective seeing these two bumbling maroons run in and get themselves tuck in the doorway
I actually considered these guys to get certed to build my resume for doing high threat contracting work. This has effectively nullified that idea forever. Thanks Mike.
Wait, these are real dudes? Post the name of the Training School / Facility!
You can also count on Don Shipley to do some investigative work if you're also unsure of the credibility of the instructors if they claim military background.
@@WeFightTheDark Thanks for the reply, yep I saw the first few seconds and was schocked into commenting prior to watching the rest of the video. This school should be named and shamed in the video description IMO.
Edit: as well as the instructors.
I can't believe what I'm watching...
Ohh they are so wild the hostiles may get a surprise how un normal they are!!!
@@WeFightTheDark Israeli training is bogus, everything they produce in terms of training (including krav maga) is all shit and makes no damn sense. Good thing they have us as "allies" and only fight rock throwers
In my police academy our SWAT team taught us building clearing and dynamic entries. All of it was either 2 man or single person. Every threshold gets a muzzle. You're not blowing past open thresholds with your back to them unless your partner is providing plate coverage and a muzzle in that direction and moving with you. Secondly, the weird peekaboo looks like a bastardize version of a quick peek which is used primarily outdoors to gain a picture around a corner when there is a reason to move at a high pace. The difference shown here is it's indoors, and they keep their head dangling in the doorway for several seconds. It defeats the purpose of the maneuver, and the best part is they do it without their muzzle pointed in the direction they're looking. So even if they do see something they cannot fire upon it. Lastly , why is the guy in the green going first to the next doorway if the blue shirt guy is in front of him? CQB should feel flowy, kind of like creating a circle in every room. So to just cut in front of him is just dumb and inefficient. This is all kinds of jacked up
Edit: wrote this comment before watching the video
"If the orientation of your gun is pointed at the ground, then you're just going to be shot in the face". Wise words kids. It's like when watching a super operator do a mag dump, then slowly survey left to right looking for further threats. With an empty firearm. I've seen this, and it's hysterical.
Which is why we should never move from cover without first being weapons checked whenever possible.
As opposed to getting shot in the face with your gun pointed forward? I don't get the criticism. Because the ambusher will shoot you in the face whether or not your gun is pointed to the ground or forward. Maybe your exploding brain sends a grip signal to your already dead hands and you luck shoot the guy but you're still dead as a rock either way right?
@@georgefloydspaceshuttlepro1839 The fact that his gun was being handled in a "I'm a big free target, please shoot me" manner should already be explanation enough. He wasn't ready to engage when he moved like an idiot and therefore is practically forfeiting his life in this scenario, doubly so because of idiot2 following the leader. You're not as likely to be shot in the face if your weapon is pointed in the direction of your movement and ready to engage a target.
@@georgefloydspaceshuttlepro1839 if the gun is pointed downward, door opens and enemy is within 1 meter of the door, enemy could hold your gun/arm and that becomes a shittier situation, at least if gun is pointed forward you can just squeeze the trigger, I think you wanna do cqb to clear a room instead of engage in hand to hand combat
@@georgefloydspaceshuttlepro1839 Where your eyes go...your weapon goes..that's the reflex you are building...you don't want to see a threat then have to take cover then come back to shoot..what if you popped out and saw a baddie with their back to you...you don't want to raise your weapon..you want to shoot...
I would love, and I mean LOOOOOOOVE to go against these guys as OPFOR with simunitions. I've been OPFOR in killhouses before, and I'm not some super secret ninja operator. I have a moderate amount of firearms training and I've been able to tag actual real world operators. This isn't because I'm better or anything, it's because actual CQB is a brutal unforgiving fucking meatgrinder. Getting hit with simunitions is a real wake up call too. It's the realization that "oh. IM DEAD" or "oh. I just got paralyzed and will be eating through a tube and shitting into a bag the rest of my life... oh my God how is my wife going to handle this"
This is also your reminder that an untrained 16 year old with an AKM is perfectly capable of dropping an entire stick of Navy Seals if they get hung up in the door, which WILL happen if the first man takes one in the face
This was my thoughts at NTC lmao
i did opfor for 2nd rangers in idaho once. i was a PFC combat engineer at the time and i definitely killed an entire squad coming through one door. in my mind, if you dont flash or frag a room before you clear it, youre gonna lose guys and get fucked up.
@@SuicidalChocolateSK
Do they have all this room clearing type training facilities at NTC nowadays?
My unit, the 1st Infantry Div, went there twice when I was in it once in late 84 and then in early 85, there was nothing like that there at the time, all the training in the Army back then was about engaging the Soviet Military in large open field warfare, there wouldn't have been room's to clear since basically we'd have destroyed any standing structures hopefully with the occupants still in them, not much to clear when it's rubble.
It's amazing how different the training and tasks are for the Army nowadays compared to when I was in, all the way down to how the military is bloated with special operators compared to back then, I'd like to see the number's on how many regular Army per special operator back then compared to now.
From what I see these days even regular troops are trained to what seems like a much higher level than we were back then.
@@dukecraig2402 there’s shoothouses on pretty much every major CONUS base and I’m sure there’s more. CQB was pushed pretty hard while I was in 06-12. NTC, at the time, seemed to focus much more on grand strategy type situations than smaller unit tactics, but MOUT was part of it. As for small unit tactics being far more common training; I’m sure it is, but it is very unit dependent. We even did a few MOUT courses with our F troops. There were many lessons learned in OIF/OEF but it appears that some of that has been lost as the new “leadership” seems more concerned about politics than an effective fighting force.
They train people to think they are combat gods so they run into the grinder, but what you said about the 16 year old is seriously important. Wrong place, wrong time, bad luck and one mag takes out a squad.
And people call untrained airsofters bad!
Are we sure these 2 didn't get trained by Detroit Urban Survival Training?
Nice one
Even literal 12 year olds playing airsoft do better than these guys, lol.
I thought they were airsofters 🤣
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 coming from someone who played airsoft at about 12, it's an age where the sting hurts enough to make you realize you want to figure out how to avoid it lol. May have absolutely no clue how to do proper cqb but you at least figure out what gets you shot the most and do the opposite lol
They probably did. Fail Brown is a complete grifter. I'm honestly surprised no one has died from his bullshit. Or maybe a lot have died... I mean, he's based in Detroit, and dead men don't tell tales. Maybe a whole bunch of people are getting deep sixed and he gets away with it cause there's so many murders there daily anyway, nobody stop to check if any vics were associated with DUST? It's possible, even in the internet age.
They're so chaotic. like they're on an adrenaline drip, all of their movements are jerky and screams of "i watched Blackhawk Down and SWAT, so i know what im doing"
They're trying very hard to be tacticool as though sprinting around is what makes it fast, effective and efficient. That these guys can potentially train others is what I would view as a greed and ego combo. They aren't concerned about being the best, but instead taking advantage of people who don't know enough to call out their instruction.
Great video as always Mike. You're an awesome role model on every level.
True to his schools name "israeli" lol you'll get j00d
They're even sprinting wrong though 🤦😂
@@jasonmelhorn8917 hahahah!!! Yah!!! They look like fockn ducks waddling their way to the flippin' butchers block!!😁 LoL.....what absolute goofs
@@jasonmelhorn8917 facts 😂😂😂😂
They are larping and getting paid for it.
Former 12B paratrooper here.
I picked up on the same thing: center fed room, no one went right.
No violence of action on enter because he went peekaboo. They lost surprise before they went in. Further, why are they doing hand signals after their first shots? Surprise is gone. Talk.
Waaaaaaay too much running. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
I'm an airsofter with a couple of courses under my belt and 17 years experience with sims and airsoft and even I would have killed both of them, that's embarrassingly bad.
Good points
So, im a civilian, but even I wondered why neither of them were covering the six
As a former active duty Marine MOUT instructor... this was scary to watch... But I can explain the gun flick you mention around 4:54ish. It's a chamber check, the idea is with the gun up, you can look past the chamber while still being in an engagement ready position, to make sure you have no obvious malfunctions, we taught it as part of our S&A after each engagement.
I was about to say the same but you beat me to it. #semperfi
Theres is extremely exaggerated ...
@@supremelordgodking1226 thank you for your cervix borther
We did the same in the Army. But theirs is way over done.
@@timesthree5757 exactly
We need accurate training more than we ever have. We need you guys.
Mike, I'm a former IDF paratrooper and security officer here in Israel. This is NOT the standard for CQB we have here, I PROMISE. No idea who these dudes are or who the heck trained them but we have plenty of schools here that would set the record straight for you in a second. Take care man, love the content
I think that your meant to peek with the muzzle of the weapon
@@Lukeclout No, you go through the door and kill the enemy. Peeking and hesitation get you killed. The enemy is not hesitating. On a team, whoever was behind these bozos would kick/push them through the door and use them as cover if necessary. Shit like this is how you get a whole fireteam killed.
Exactly, the zohan would never do CQB like that foolishness.
You don’t mess with the Zohan!
@@javyvaq1628 first off he'd do CQB in speedos.
My favorite part is how they fight each other to get through the doors each time
Queue the 🤡 music
Their theme music should have been Yakety Sax.
Black shirt literally hipchecks Green shirt at one point lol.
Those are a pair of candy canes 🤣😂.
The owner is deranged if you see any reviews that question him he blows up in the comments saying “we train navy SEALs you must be jealous of us” and stuff like that. Clearly the sign of someone who is confident in their program lol. He leaves his phone number and says anyone can call him to ask about the tactics in the videos, id love for Mike to get him on and breakdown what is going on from both perspectives.
Lets see if we can get Rob Oneil to call him.
give him and his comrades a paintball gun and get some random guys of the street and i am certain they will not walk through a building unscathed.
@@erikkayV yea live on the operator podcast :D
Who is it?
Not even 15 seconds and I'm loving how they stop in the doorway, somehow getting both of them right in the obvious line of fire that every bad guy would already be aiming at. RIP
They also apparently love doorways, and like the first thing i learned in a CQB class was "NEVER STAND IN A DOORWAY" they'll clear a whole room with both of them posted up in the actual door frame with no cover or concealment. An untrained person who could hear them coming would get them in a home defense scenario, let alone clearing a room of genuine, trained hostiles.
Same. A Co 2/54 in 1999 for boot camp and that was my first “aha” moment of CQB. Get out of the fatal funnel. I’m 40 now and still shoot straight enough for hunting deer and elk but I have forgotten 99% of my CQB if I’m honest but….I didn’t forget that little nugget. Pretty big red flag when they set up a tent in the doorway on top of each other.
They don't follow the principle of room dominance. They view themselves as the "fatal funnel" not realizing that the moment the first man kicks the door the attention of the enemy is immediately focused in that direction. By the time he would have brought his gun up, he would have already received rounds coming at him in the doorway which would have likely pushed them back or killed them outright. That is why you have to push through that doorway and get to your spot in the room engaging targets. If you are clearing a building with unarmed combatants then their technique is just fine. Lol
@@zacharybrown5325 Yeah. These guys were on some drugs or had ADHD or something. I have zero experience in this but I imagine room clearing to be a alot slower paced then this. Methodical and carefully executed maneuvers. As the team gets more proficient it gets quicker but I don't ever see soldiers running in footages in room clearing.
Right like “let’s just fill every inch of the fatal funnel with our intire team so all anyone hast to do to kill one or both of us is point there gun at the door and shoot.
I was in Ramadi back in 03 as an 0311, so it's been a long time since I got my bachelor's in home invasion. Accordingly, I'm sure I'm very rusty at this point and a lot must have changed since then in terms of what is fashionable in cqb. This being said, watching these two clowns was mortifying, considering their purported credentials and despite all the time that has transpired since I did this for a living. They definitely have the intensity part somewhat right, and that's about the only positive thing I can say. They are clumsy, jittery, and generally seem to be a liability more than anything else. They stop in killzones (doorways). If I had done that in training or in combat the guys behind me would have shoved me through the door and used me as a human shield (The correct procedure for when a man gets hit making entry). They don't buttonhook and pie off the room which means that they would have been shot in the back in each room they cleared. They stopped to make lengthy communication in the middle of a sweep and clear, which means that any enemy in succeeding rooms not only knows they're coming but has had ample time to set in and prep a defense. They try to move fast, but they're so spastic in those movements that it nullifies any positive gains from being quick (slow is smooth, smooth is fast). Moving through a building should be a continuous, nonstop flow from beginning to end with every inch of each room scanned by a team who has practiced the movement so much they no longer even need to communicate, but instead complete the entire process with each man knowing his responsibilities without any need for sorting things out on the fly. Also as a side note, going in guns blazing is a last resort. if you know the house is hot and have the means, frag or flash every room as a precaution before entry. You'll increase your odds that way.
Did you happen to be attached to AAV's?
Were you at blue diamond, hurricane point, or...what was the other one? Sharkbase, or shark fin or something like that?
I was just going to comment that they fill the fatal funnel nicely. Great place to park your vital organs for dose of lead poisoning coming their way. There are too many of these clowns selling their nonsense to anyone with some money.
Wait. So when your buddy gets hit u shove him through the door and use him as a human shield? Im not doubting you or your credentials, i totally believe you. But that seems totally fucked.
What would the DI's say if this happened during SOI?
MP here, I’ve done plenty of active shooter/room clearing training. These guys were dead the second they entered the door way. Even if it’s not a center fed room, man 1 calls his path and second man does the opposite, whether it’s heading left and right or going straight down the wall, depending on the room layout. Anywhere you can’t see is dead space and should be treated as though there are hostiles hidden behind it. Not trying to offend, but if it comes down to being offended or being killed, it’s a pretty obvious choice. Great video.
I'm dying here watching these two guys do this! 😂😂😂😂 I'm gonna have to show this to my Sergeants
This just looked like running chaos to me! Every movement was over exaggerated and they were in way to big of a rush to get killed. If you want to see how poorly these guys did watch the video with Mike and the guys from GRBS and then watch this, back to back. Mike and the fellas moved and flowed like precision and no one had to say word to anyone else, these guys are just chaos!
I like that..my style is running chaos..
Hahaha.. these clowns are the rest of their team. These boys are flat out bullet catchers
@@KeterMalkuth nope, not even an annoyance to the pros.
@@FFr2r HA!
These guys would have either 1) got shot by the enemy or 2) shot each other!
CQB is a sychcronized teamwork function...strickly for seasoned pros, for us rookies, don't sweep me bro, and don't shoot from behind me...
I've seen footage of that technique going really bad. As in, "scooping your buddy's brains off the floor after you shot him by accident", kinda bad.
@@sigspearthumb3249 f
*strictly
and don’t knock me over in the doorway! 😂😂😂
@@sigspearthumb3249 I did glass house with sim rounds and got friendly fired on, took a round the left nut. went right around the flap on my iba. Second worst pain I've ever felt.
When you watch guys like Mike do CQB, it is so fluid and precise, those two clowns look like the Keystone Cops.
Worse, they look like Steven Seagal trying to clear a room
they run back and forth between rooms, like wtf. CLEAR ONE room at a time, and CLEAR IT FULLY. going back and forth is just asking to be shot in the back.
I’ve seen this before. They use the doorway as cover. They don’t make tactical entry and wall flood. They just hang out in the funnel of death. Two abreast. Also it’s obvious in this case they know where the targets are. And they dismiss the rest of the room. Instead of working opposite corners, left and right and then working back to the center of the room. They both go right or left, as you say exposing their six.
this looks really really dangerous how theyre clearing, someones gonna get hurt with these lessons.
No one is going to get hurt... Except all the people they're going to kill.
Yea the innocent civilians they use it on
Basic Principles, as a basic soldier you are taught (in the British military) that your Barrel goes where your eyes go... its no good having your barrel at low or high ready when the T heard the Breach and is expecting you.
Also these guys knew where the targets were and they still broke fundamental rules, #1 is always right.. #2 adapt....
So what do you guys do when your barrel goes towards an ally, just keep it up or do you have to guide to their feet and back up again, in some big U shape? Lol
After four or five classes, even an amateur like me knows this is terrible - how on earth can you shoot from behind like that when your partner might move into the muzzle!!?!?!?!?!
bro i live in a country where i cant own guns or attend training classes, and i know this is bad.
It’s called a field of fire, similar to field of view you have a cone you can shoot in maybe it’s 360 degrees if your the only one. Maybe it’s 15 degrees if you have a whole squad. This is so everyone has an angle they can shoot in and not hit each other. This gets very chaotic when there’s lots of people and bullets start flying past your head. Instead a new technique is used, you position yourself next to a teammate, and use body contact to insure you are both shooting on the same line therefore the possibility of shooting them decreases. But yes you should not fire at a target if your buddy is in front of you. He is in your field of fire so he takes over, a threat emerges he shoots it never you.
@@RekzysTheTitan move to America! In SoCal you can train w/ the man TOMORROW!
@@surfingonmars8979 Ya but you can't own anything with a mag larger than 10 rounds. And if you own an AR (good luck actually getting one) you have to have that BS fin grip.
Point being, don't move to SoCal if you want to get a gun.
@@doms.6701 I got 7-8 handguns, two ARs, an M2, a 1301 - and the 10 rd mag limit is a joke.
Mike please let us know when you make it out of this brother.. keep your head up.. stay focused brother.. you are one of the best warriors out there.. remember this too shall pass
ive only done a few cqb classes. Im a gunsmith and while going through the program, i met a fellow student who was actually an old OIF and OEF vet and he ran a small training school based on his experience in the military and as a swat officer in Colorado, and hes a cool dude, but hes hilarious and gave anyone in the program a 2 day breacher course for free so that we could better understand our clients because some of us were wanting to work with the government and military as contract gunsmiths, and we all wanted to better understand what these guys were facing and things that would better aid them, not to mention whenever they described a problem to us, we would have an understanding what they were experiencing. I am not an operator, and as fun as it was to run around practice breaching rooms in this abandoned building they had scheduled for demo, I know my place is at the work bench and not in the field. BUT, even I saw a lot of problems. i didnt catch the peek a boo, but them just daintaly kicking the door and then just sitting in it? Fatal funnel all day, move through it because if youre not moving youre dying
The only “cqb training” that I have is like 3 and half years of paintball and even I was able to laugh along at this 😂
Paintball can be great cqb training
Dominating clearing etc
Its all angles and exposure it all applies
Lateral movement and reactionary gaps kicks ass in paint ball
Actually paintball and airsoft are great at teaching you quickly to check your corners, slice the pie, and supress and move
Paintball/airsoft is good, as you have an actual opponent as well as physical „i’m dead” feedback. Getting tagged in the kidneys from weird angles is a good enough teacher of where to hang out and where not to
The guys in the video; they just started paintball. And watching Seagal movies. And CoD. And cocaine. That's why they're so excited.
I'll take you and your 3.5 years of paintball, over these two knuckleheads arrogant enough to think they should train anyone, on my team, any day of the week.
I just realized what this reminds me of, they are acting how you act if you have played a training level on a game 50 times and know exactly where every target is and are not acting as if it's a new situation and there are unknowns.
They going for that 3rd star.
They think theyre Allen trying to impress Shepard
As soon as it started, I thought, "Israelis."
Was at a poker table the other night and was talking with another vet about our service. Some Israeli guy tells us we suck and Israeli services are best and that he was in Israeli recon. I could have asked 100 questions that he couldn't have answered that any Israeli recon services guy could have answered, but I didn't. I thought about challenging him because of his hands. Instead, I said something about his hands.
"Sir, any service person who works his way to a top-tier force, shows proof of the undertaking in his hands. You though, have hands like a little girl's."
He replied, "We have special gloves in the Israeli military."
The ingenuity of these stolen valor guys is comical.
If he truly was an Israeli then excepting medical disqualification, they have universal conscription and he very well could’ve been. I do hard oilfield work and have for 10 plus years and I’m just starting to get rough hands 😂 it’s possible if you wear gloves.
I went to basic with a guy who went to this school, both of us at the time had 5+ years working in infantry line units from Joe's to squad leaders, he truly believed in this "theroy" because they claimed the Israelis were using it. He sent me videos etc of doing this same peekaboo shit with handguns but solo. He now works as a contractor for Garda, hope he doesn't use this wherever he is.
He won't ever, it's a boring job. I was going to work for this company in my area and nothing has ever happened. They didn't even have to tell me in the introduciton to give up the money if it ever did happened, the gun was just to defend your own life.
@Jiggy B I personally didn't serve and talking to people in the introduction don't feel that way back then when I've met them. One of them served in the army and said they rather work in that transport position vs being posted at along side the base where she's witnessed people lauching explosives at them.
@Jiggy B Sorry I can't explain this simpler for you or you just don't understand any of it.
This peekaboo looks like they once heard about pieing off a room but didn't catch the part about using your gun to do it.
Even if you don't get shot on the peek, you just gave away your exact position and head height to the guy inside who's absolutely going to dome you when you try to enter.
Lmao garda tried to hire me because of my military background. I thought it was a terrorist group trying to have a good time with me.
The whole time I was imagining a side by side of this vid and the GBRS cqb vids y'all did and just what efficiency looks like. Then my Army brain kicked in and went straight to Mike, DJ and Cole doing a parody of these tactics lol. Keep up the great lessons Mike. People always need to learn and grow
I kept hearing DJ say "don't rush to your death"
i was picturing the same thing
I need to watch this now. It’s gotta be funny.
I've never done actual training. I've had friends in the military who showed me clearing tactics when we played paintball. Things like were to set up before and after a breach, paning a room and some very basic stuff like that.
So I'm not the best or super gunner by Any means but these guys were scary to watch. I'd hate to have them on my team. The one I'd be worried was going to shoot me cause he comes up rapidly from one side to the other bumps his partner and shoots very close at a target that had already taken rounds from one person. Id be worried he would bump me and either id go to move or end up losing my balance and hed shoot me. The other I'd be worried was going to let us get shot in the back. And how neither really understood their roles and who was going through the door first. I'd be worried we'd get stuck for a half a second and let whoever on the other side light us both up.
After being with my unit and doing BD6 for what felt like months I have one word: silhouette. I always appreciate your videos, you're doing a service for your serviceman.
"OK we're gonna clog up each doorway as we come to it. Sound good?"
"Yeah, that way nobody can get past us!"
"Dude we're the $hit!"
*high-fives each other*
I swear you're one of the old school guys. Even with react/commentary you're straight to the point and articulate things to where it's impossible not to understand it. Wish I was surrounded by NCOs like you.
There's always been shtty NCOs. Learn from it so one day you'll be less shtty and troops will want to emulate your example.
@@misc376 I got out for that exact reason. Was tired of shit rising and the good guys getting passed over. But that's how it is, how it was for me, how it was for my dad and my grandpa (though in my grandpa's day you could go from e-2 to e-6 in about a week, depending on how poor your leadership was.)
@@misc376 I did exactly that. Mirrored the qualities I loved and trashed the qualities I didn't. Unless there's valor awards involved or you've done some amazing shit that's gone public, there's not so groovy gatekeepers that could care less about your advancement.
I've watched this so many times now... I just come back. These guys are funny. I just can't stop. Lol.
Love that line.."I'm assuming this is a demonstration of their skills", hahahaha. Mike, I know you know what happens when you assume something .
99% of airsofters do better CQB than this 🤣
Not me though, I do CQB exactly like this.
I have a perfect method of CQB: RUN AWAY!!!!!!!
Speedsofters would have filled day with these clowns, I'm a speed-mil who if possible will on occasion shoot like a terrorist when the ref isn't looking 🤣
Oh I was just waiting for some kid to bring up airsoft… 🤦♂️
@@Ac22768 whats wrong with airsoft😂😂😂
@@iramosin8724 this
I huge thank you for what you share online here Mike, I am far from a expert, and regretably there are tons of "experts" on online media, and the average guy doesn't know how to tell the difference between the psuedo expert and the real expert, that would include me. Your breakdowns are gold, never apologize or feel like breaking down bad technique is calling out anyone, you are quite literally equiping people with knowledge that could save their lives via reprogramming and rewriting bad techniques acquired,
CoD meets CQB. For public record I'm a Medal of Honour guy. This comment is for Rabbit.
That weapon flip looks like they're checking the chamber for malfunctions before moving on, like they watched an old Magpul training video on mute in a store one time and didn't understand the context.
Haha Mike's reactions make me laugh for real. These guys are what you definitely do.....not do.
Mike: we are now kid friendly, and not cursing.
Also Mike: They are doing some weird shit 😂🇺🇸
Hey kids shit too.
I want the uncensored version of reacts. LOL
I’m completely clueless on any of this… and even I was like “Dang… someone’s gonna die doing this or taking this class”
This showed up on my homepage again after year. Still entertaining. Maybe they're the best peak-a-boo CQB trainers in the world.
If they're going to peekaboo, the better way would be to pie around the threshold to do an initial clear before breaking the threshold. This would be a much better idea if concerned about barricaded shooters or traps. Your gun is up and you're in position to break the shot first, while mitigating risk by visually clearing a good portion of the room.
he was trying to bait the AWP XD
@@zwenkwiel816 I would have kick the green shirt guy in first. Let him draw all the enemy fire and expose all their positions.
I'm looking at this as a total armchair QB, but they're literally standing in doorways. From my RUclips informed education that's like no-no 1.
I've watched the video which talked about single man CQB 3 times already... The usefulness of this content is really amazing.
Yeah dude, I'm completely in the dark on real CQB tactics but even playing a single FPS game can teach you not to do all of the things they did. At times, they actually look like video game AI with their jerky, unpredictable movements. I'd be out the door so fast if I'd paid for this crap.
looks to me that they ran through this same course many many times over. they were "playing the game" of training instead of taking it like it's real. Also I agree with everything said here.
oh yeah it was very much mov8ng from target to target knowing there's no risk. soing the same with airsoft or sims would show ALL the flaws.
Opponents (mostly) aren't static targets.
"Not cussing, or doing anything weird!"
You sir, are awesome!
I used to paintball for years as a teen and I swear we had better corner awareness and teamwork than this sheeeeesh.
I was just thinking about my paintball days as a teen when I Seen these girls talking about their air soft tactics.☺️😜
I was big into outdoor paintball for about 15yrs, over that time we played with a lot of ex military, current military & cops, most of them were the first ones hit... They were also the biggest cheaters, I can't count the times they tried to wipe off the paint or after being hit, shoot you like 10 times & claim they were first. After a bunch of temper tantrums, drama, cheating & some fist fights we stopped inviting them all together.
Thats cause you didnt want to get hit! These guys don't have people shooting back at them like you all did. Even if it was just "paintball"
I was taught a long time ago, if youre going to peekaboo to take a zone, youre giving up space youve already taken just to take it again
same as sweeping blind corner if you don't swing your body with the gun you're fighting for space you're already in
I talked to an Australian 1 commando buddy and he said when he was in the Ghan his guys would walk past the entrance to a room pie the room with his gun first. This way he could see the contents of the room first, present his body armour towards the threat instead of side on, if he gets shot at then its easier to duck out of line of sight or if hit then be dragged out of the way. By doing that they see the majority of the room and only have to clear blind spots. If a bad guy is in the room then they chuck in grenades and stick a Machine gun around the corner and spray the room.
Start pieng the room again and if they see that the threat is neutralised then they storm the room or chuck more grenades and machine gun fire if he is still there. If the enemy guy cannot be dislodged they might evac the building and call an airstrike down or bring up a vehicle to pump rounds into the building. They only assault a room if its perceived to be clear.
Is this peekaboo created by israeli
this sounds reminiscent of "shake and bake" room clearing
The best way is to do a two or more man clear. The person who usually gets shot isn’t the first through, but actually the second guy, but with two people, not only do you have double to firepower, but the enemy will give a very slight delay on target priority, which can be enough for one or both of you to take them down.
As for me, I’d rather not get shot in the first place. Mobility is the key to winning firefights. Makes you hard to hit and gets you to better places.
@@jesusofbullets how do you clear a room if everyone is already pointing at your direction.
@@jmgonzales7701 welcome to the basic conundrum of cqb: how do you shoot someone prepared without getting shot first?
consensus since mogadishu is overwhelming force and violence instead of methodical and careful for a multiplicity of reasons. a main one is human psychology: most importantly how an attacker's decision making works and how a defender reacts to stress. there's too much to write in a single comment but to give you an idea of what is done to make cqb happen with minimal casualties here are examples of both complex and simple shit like the above pragmatic australians developed:
- creating your own entry points from unexpected directions (that includes from below and above)
- considering the psychological state of your enemy, what motivates them, what will pressure them and what they will not tolerate
- having an utterly ridiculous stock of shock-, frag- and distraction grenades and applying them so liberally you're giving guys across town tinnitus
- being good enough to gauge barrier penetration to shoot through walls and know when you can fire into a room and not kill adjacent guys
- understanding that shock and pouring a bunch of men through a building like a tidal wave is as dangerous as it gets and utterly scary for the attacker but ultimately better for your survival and mission than pussyfooting around carefully
- embracing the fact that you are doing something suicidal
- thus further, being prepared to act with no hesitation, no thoughts, no pauses to consider the best course of action, at a moment's notice without warning being able to beat a frightened teenager to death with his own helmet after he walked right into you in a dark hallway. only kill, only kill.
i trained a shitload for this specifically and learnt from guys who did the above for real, all it did was make me happy i never had to do my job.
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How do you have this titled on your Paid Patreon page, so we can watch the uncensored version?
Their tactic of remaining inside the doorway bottleneck is big brain.
Stay clumped, look intimidating, maybe the opfor will think you're a giant monster and give up.
They knew where the targets were, and focused on that.
And apparently they both had to engage each target. Like a match, where speed over tactics is emphasized.
But... They clearly did teamwork though, so wtf? Lol
@@dravenocklost4253 that's not teamwork, its a dance with guns. That kind of "speedrunning" will get you killed in a real scenario
They’re charging people like four thousand dollars for their classes too!😂
Who are they? If I showed up at a class and they did this I'd be getting my money refunded!
my jaw was half-dropped the whole video, then i started to chuckle after taking a moment at the end...
Watching that first peekaboo reminds me of the infamous tactical waddle. It seems like common sense that if you step into the enemies line of fire (ie, they're covering the doorway already), flailing around like an idiot before getting into a comfy shooting position is just a huge window of time for the enemy to shoot you. It's like they don't know that this isn't an rpg with turned based combat. Also the part where they're both in the door frame at the same time just seems like begging to get each other stuck.
All the Israeli special forces do the tac waddle. It's their trademark
As a guy who’s never done this, I watch a lot of your stuff, Pat Mac and a few others who actually know what tf they’re doing. This is obviously a first rate cluster fuck! I do take your advice very seriously and try and do it the way you guys teach. What a jacked up group. Much love from your old home area of Ft Bragg. I feel very fortunate to have friends in 3rd group that are willing to share their knowledge with me as well. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
We are all fortunate that guys in the 3rd (and all others) do this job for us at all. I love America and I love her son's under arms. My soldiering days are past but I would trade anything to start all over serving the greatest nation on earth
@@Hugh-Glass greatest nation?....*puke*
@@alexandervinckenbos keep hating, nobody needs your permission.
@@Sapper_Rage bingo brother. That piece of human waste is a non issue
Pat Mac and that Chris Costa guy are so cringe
I was missing my severe anxiety. Thankfully this video found it for me.
I was holding my face in horror and laughter watching this.
Like Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd trying to catch the rabbit, and competing with each other.
Mike, I love the series. I think it would be awesome if you showed the video, explained what they did wrong, and then cut to you at a range with a mock set up of the situation and show the correct movement/tactic’s.
Aside from the "cut to you at a range" part he did tell you what they were doing wrong and why.
This HAS to be satire!!!! If it's not then I'm genuinely worried for these guys!!
It HAS to be!! Please don;t tell me they were for real.
yep
Mike, give these guys a break….they’re from the Salvation Army National Guard
Not to mention these are their best......Ultra Delta Special Forces S.E.A.L Commando SAS SASR Tier 1 Division Unit Section!
Lol
That's offensive to both the Salvation Army and the National Guard!
Don't forget about the british special forces SBS
Nice to see that even the pros can miss the real problem.
At 3 times in this very short video the guy in green moves the point of his loaded weapon over the leg of his team mate.
Pointing your weapon at your allies is a no go red
I was laughing my ass off at how absurd it would be to see them react to an actual threat.. 😂😂😂
Peekaboo reminded me of a Pat Mac video I just watched today about clearing rooms. He said you never wanna clear rooms with your face. Don't ever lead with your face. Made me laugh... same idea here.
Pat is legend. I been through multiple seminars with him, in and out of service. I would bear his children if he asked. Dude is god.
If you peekaboo while doing CQB, you’re gonna have a bad time.🤣 Hope you’re having a great great weekend brother!🙏🏼🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🏼
They look like two speedrunners trying to outscore each other. Only thing missing is them shooting each other for "stealing their kill".
The way the both busted through the last door. 😂
Hilarious Mike, you're killing me. I mean, I know you are taking this seriously, but it's just so funny to watch these guys and listen to you comment.
lol i couldnt stop laughing that was awesome
it's like when you're playing a video game, like Call of Duty, that has buttons to lean around corners. When you tap the buttons repeatedly the player's just throwing their shoulders side to side in-game. These guys are doing it for real
Only went a few comments in, but I'm surprised no one mentioned the sweet tactical hip check the blue shirt threw on his "buddy" while they were both silhouetted in the doorway. He just saved his life from that round the paper target had lined up on his crouching "buddy's" head.
I love how Mike monopolized the word "react" better than the Fine bros ever could
Theres a reason why they’ve disappeared into thin air
The Fine Fucks.
Great video mike, I’m amazed neither of them got shot. Good to learn the faults in their tactics and movement
Only because no one was shooting back, only God's intervention could have saved them...
That "weird gun flick maneuver" is probably a "rifle check". It is very common practice to "check your rifle" after every drill when training with Israelis.
I'd think that'd get you killed quick. Taking your eyes off Target is one of the first things I was taught NEVER to do. Even when your target is down.
@@MistaPringles it's not a practice I'm found of, just something I noticed they had us do when learning the Tavor variants. Eyes off threat can be situational, but in most cases of agree with you.
What are they checking by the way ?
@@numeristatech Chamber check. To make sure nothing is out of battery.
It's one thing to do a weapon check between putting a contact down and moving to the next unknown ("threat down, weapon up"), but that little flick move means nothing if they aren't even looking at their weapon when they do it. It becomes a bad habit that just wastes time.
Im no expert but the part that made me go: "something is not right". Is when they were both squeezed together in the door frame shooting at something
It seems I've learned better tactics from playing Doorkickers 2, than these dudes in this video 😆. Wow, I legit thought someone was going to catch a round to the face. I was nervous and scared watching this. Thank you for your video sir!
This honestly looks like how some people speedruns a game. Also it really looks like they don't even bother to wait for his teammate, they basically just run and have to improvise as they go along and shoot around the teammate
More like shoot the teammate!
Mike is just a hater because these guys have ascended to a new level of CQB proficiency /s. 😂
😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
Level 9000
🤣😂
Better than CAG, easy...
@@ontologos5768 CAG comes to them for training
Outstanding MIKE ... GOING HIGH AND LOW..
I think the rotating the gun is the first half of the "magpul flip"; checking the bolt to see if it's seated or held-open before flicking the mag out. I'm sure they will explain it as checking for malfunctions before moving to the next engagement.
Correct. Pretty much an Israeli IDF SOP.
When you finish Dale Browns defense course and immediately fly to Ukraine to “Get Some”…
"to Get Some" ...😂
This is why actual force on force training is required. Either with training rounds or even with airsoft guns. Because you would instantly realize this shit would get you killed once you get smoked.
I'm not trained and never served but all I could think was like FATAL FUNNEL!!
It would be awesome if they actually yelled out "peekaboo" each time they stuck their head out. 🤣
Holy crap!...I'm nowhere near being a DEVGRU operator and I can tell this is wrong! They remind of Brock Landers and Chest Rockwell in the movie Boogie Nights 🤣🤣🤣
I’ve never been in a cqb class or in the military. But I do like the cherries style of cqb fighting from the doorway/ pieing with a kinda dynamic entry when you do enter. To me this fits me better since I would probably be by myself in this situation.
Fighting from the doorway is a guaranteed way to die.
The scariest part is in this run more than once there could have easily been friendly fire.
These guys had some serious "bull in a China shop" energy, just busting like a scarface scene. It seems they had no deliberate movement, except for their little "gun flick" movement they did (I'm assuming it was to move the sights out of the way while still aiming the gun) that you really didn't like.
I thought it was checking for any malfunctions but idk. I’m just a civilian..